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Talk on wiretaps was just a sick joke, Hausner says

December 11th, 2008, 1:39 pm by Nick R. Martin

Earlier this week, Dale Hausner was heard on a secret audio recording saying he shot somebody “at 27th Avenue in the yard.” In a videotaped interrogation after his arrest, which is being played in full today for the jury, he vehemently denies having shot anybody and says the remarks were just a sick joke.

“Maybe I was drinking. That’s troubling. I haven’t shot anybody anywhere,” Hausner tells detective Clark Schwartzkopf on the videotape. “I have a sick sense of humor, so I joke about certain stuff.”

“I could never have shot anybody in my life,” he said at another point. “I never have and I hope I never will.”

Hausner gives thumbs up following bizarre videotape

December 11th, 2008, 1:21 pm by Nick R. Martin

A videotape has been playing for hours of Dale Hausner’s lengthy interrogation by Phoenix police detective Clark Schwartzkopf, which took place shortly after he and his roommate were arrested in August 2006 on suspicion of the Serial Shooter killing spree.

Just before the lunch break today, Hausner turned to the gallery, where this reporter was sitting, grinned and gave a thumbs up.

This action came after some pretty bizarre footage of Hausner talking about his fascination with infamous American serial killers, as well offering up alternate theories about who was behind the killings. Hausner said nothing when he flashed the thumbs up, only nodded up and down. A short time later, a deputy led him calmly out of the courtroom into a holding cell.

It’s not clear why Hausner made this motion of approval. Prosecutors have accused him of being a narcissist. So it’s possible he just likes the attention.

Submitted photo. Dale Hausner, the Serial Shooter suspect, is shown here in this undated photo, wearing a tuxedo and flashing a thumbs up.

Hausner reveals fascination with serial killers

December 11th, 2008, 11:45 am by Nick R. Martin

“I find it interesting,” Serial Shooter suspect Dale Hausner told Phoenix police detective Clark Schwartzkopf during a videotaped interrogation. “It’s very fascinating.”

Not only did Hausner closely follow the Serial Shooter and Baseline Killer cases through news reports, he told the detective he also had read a lot about infamous American serial killers like BTK, Son of Sam and Jeffrey Dahmer. In fact, he told Schwartzkopf he would even like to meet some of them personally.

“I would like to sit down with a real life Jeffrey Dahmer, and say, ‘Why the hell would you eat all those people?’” Hausner said.

Pictured from left to right: BTK killer Dennis Rader, Son of Sam killer David Berkowitz and serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer.

Early on, Hausner posed alternate theories for killings

December 11th, 2008, 11:25 am by Nick R. Martin

Soon after his arrest, Dale Hausner was placed in a police interview room for a lengthy interrogation with Phoenix police Det. Clark Schwartzkopf. Early in the interview — a videotape of which is being played today — Hausner says he has been following the Serial Shooter case extensively. “I’ve been following everything that’s in the newspapers,” Hausner told the detective. “I cut them out and save everything.”

Then, he begins to offer some possible theories about the shootings. “The Baseline Rapist could also be doing the shootings,” he said, referring to man who was raping and killing women throughout the Valley in 2006 at the same time as Serial Shooters. “The guy’s sick…It could easily be him,” Hausner said. “Or it’s gang related.”

Throughout the grainy black and white video being shown in court, Hausner maintains that he has no personal knowledge of the shootings. When asked if his roommate, Samuel Dieteman, could be behind the shootings, he repeatedly replies, “I don’t know.”

The video of the interview is expected to play for hours today, so stay tuned for more updates.

Photo shows Mark Goudeau, the suspect in the Baseline Killer serial killings.

Hausner wants leg brace removed

December 11th, 2008, 11:01 am by Nick R. Martin

For the length of the trial so far, Dale Hausner has worn a brace around one of his legs. It is a mechanism put on to keep him from bolting from the courtroom, and whenever he’s walking to or from the defendant’s table, he can be seen sort of hobbling through the courtroom.

Today, Hausner asked the court to remove the brace for the remainder of the trial, on account of good behavior. He’s asked for this before, and Judge Roland Steinle denied the request. But he’s asking for it again, with his attorney’s pointing out that he has not caused any trouble since the trial began. The Maricopa County attorney’s and sheriff’s offices are opposing the request, but Steinle said today that he would think about it and rule soon.

Tuesday wrap: Secret police recordings heard in courtroom

December 10th, 2008, 12:16 am by Nick R. Martin

Out of the soft fuzz and hiss of background noise came a voice, rough and deep.

“It now brings the total to six,” the man said, talking about news reports of a spate of recent killings throughout the Valley.

“It’s higher than that!” said another, his voice higher-pitched and louder. “What about the guy I (expletive) shot at twice at 27th Avenue in the yard?”

Jurors on Tuesday in a downtown Phoenix courtroom heard the garbled recordings of two men boasting and cheering about the Serial Shooter killing spree, which in reality had left eight people dead by that point.

Dale Hausner, the man heard with the higher-pitched voice, was only a few feet away in the courtroom, sitting stone-faced and listening as prosecutors and police said it helped prove that he and the other man, Samuel Dieteman, were responsible for the killings.

In all, prosecutors played about a dozen snippets from more than four hours of secret police recordings made on Aug. 3, 2006, just prior to midnight when they arrested the pair at their Mesa apartment.

The audio recordings were some of the most-anticipated and explicit evidence to be presented by Maricopa County prosecutors as part Hausner’s lengthy murder trial.Dieteman, believed to be the accomplice, has pleaded guilty to two murders and agreed to testify against his former roommate in the coming weeks.

The recordings, played publicly for the first time, revealed that Hausner and Dieteman talked almost obsessively about media coverage of the Serial Shooter killing spree, which had been going on since May 2005.

In one snippet played for jurors, they talked about a news report that mentioned a “new” detail that the Serial Shooter often roamed and circled around certain areas of the Valley looking for victims.

“You think?” Hausner shouted on the recording. “You dumb (expletive.) It took you a year-and-a-half to come up with that? Wow.”

In another snippet, the men talked about their individual techniques.

“I try to wait to the last second when somebody’s getting near me,” Dieteman said. “I don’t even think I get it level. I just get it to where it’s pointed at somebody.”

Hausner was heard mumbling something inaudible in the recording, then mimicking a gunshot. “And bam!”

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Submitted photo. Dale Hausner shakes hands with boxer Mike Tyson in this undated photo. Hausner was heard on secret audio recordings Tuesday saying he hoped Tyson would volunteer his time searching for a suspect in the Serial Shooter killings that plagued the Valley in 2005 and 2006.

Pair talks of killing woman using .38 revolver

December 9th, 2008, 4:09 pm by Nick R. Martin

About an hour before Hausner and Dieteman were arrested, they were recorded talking about killing a woman using a .38-caliber revolver. The woman’s identity is not clear.

“Do you know where she lives? Do you know where she works?” Hausner asks.

Dieteman’s response is inaudible. A short time later, he says, “A .38 would be great,” Dieteman says. “You just walk up to her and — boom!”

Hausner riffs off a series of mock urban slang laced with expletives, then makes mimics a rapid-fire gun: “Pow pow pow pow pow!”

‘What about that guy I…shot twice?’

December 9th, 2008, 3:54 pm by Nick R. Martin

On a recording time stamped at 5:53 p.m. on Aug. 3, 2006, Sam Dieteman is heard talking about news reports that had placed the body count in the Serial Shooter killing spree at six.

“It’s higher than that!” Hausner says. “What about the guy I (expletive) shot at twice at 27th Avenue and the yard?”

Hausner tells daughter, ‘Don’t kill anybody’

December 9th, 2008, 3:36 pm by Nick R. Martin

Many of the secret wiretap recordings are scratchy and hard to hear so far, probably because of the way they were recorded. But in one of the easier ones to make out, Dale Hausner can be heard putting his young daughter to bed.

“Don’t kill anybody, OK?” Hausner is heard saying on the recording, time stamped at 8:34 p.m. “Don’t kill anybody…Say, ‘Bye, Sam. Be careful.’” The young girl, who sounds too young to understand or respond, mumbled something back. Then the recording stopped.

Quick updates on the wiretaps on Twitter

December 9th, 2008, 3:16 pm by Nick R. Martin

Surf on over to twitter.com/SerialShooter to view quick updates on the wiretap recordings about to begin in the trial.

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